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		<title>By: Aleksandar</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch3-works-in-ie50/comment-page-1/#comment-3737</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleksandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, is this related to menu at the top. It seems to work OK in IE6. In general, WCH would be applied the same way as in any other case - submenu (oLayer) + its positined parent (oContainer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, is this related to menu at the top. It seems to work OK in IE6. In general, WCH would be applied the same way as in any other case — submenu (oLayer) + its positined parent (oContainer).</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone used this successfully with sInman Flash Replacement? http://www.mikeindustries.com/sifr/

This method applies a generated class and is therefore not present in the html. How would you use WCH in this case? I have tried amending the class in WCH.js without success.

You can see what I have tried here:
www.cofieldwines.com.au/AboutUs.jsp
www.cofieldwines.com.au/Includes/Internal_Style.css
www.cofieldwines.com.au/Includes/WCH.js
Regards,
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone used this successfully with sInman Flash Replacement? <a href="http://www.mikeindustries.com/sifr/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mikeindustries.com/sifr/</a></p>
<p>This method applies a generated class and is therefore not present in the html. How would you use WCH in this case? I have tried amending the class in WCH.js without success.</p>
<p>You can see what I have tried here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cofieldwines.com.au/AboutUs.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cofieldwines.com.au/AboutUs.jsp</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cofieldwines.com.au/Includes/Internal_Style.css" rel="nofollow">http://www.cofieldwines.com.au/Includes/Internal_Style.css</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cofieldwines.com.au/Includes/WCH.js" rel="nofollow">http://www.cofieldwines.com.au/Includes/WCH.js</a><br />
Regards,<br />
Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Derksen</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch3-works-in-ie50/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Derksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aleck,

could you tell me if the hider only works for -objects and iframes, or if it also works for other elements, e.g. java applets?

Thanks,
Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aleck,</p>
<p>could you tell me if the hider only works for –objects and iframes, or if it also works for other elements, e.g. java applets?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Ron</p>
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		<title>By: aleck</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, I haven&#039;t tested it with Java. I don&#039;t have Java VM installed as I don&#039;t like it.

Examples for version 3 shows that WCH can handle Flash and Quicktime movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, I haven’t tested it with Java. I don’t have Java VM installed as I don’t like it.</p>
<p>Examples for version 3 shows that WCH can handle Flash and Quicktime movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the credit, Aleck. Now I really need to get off my ass and finish my (standard-compliant) redesign. ;)

Looks good - I like clean code too :). I like the idea of using underscores to distinguish &quot;private&quot; function - I&#039;ll be borrowing that one.  I&#039;ve got a project that I need to make a first delivery on this week-end that is basically using pure css menus with just the WCH (and the whatever:hover) grafted on, so I&#039;ll be doing some testing for you, also. ;)

Later, I&#039;ll be looking at adding this onto an existing menu on the project that got me started tweaking your code - the one where I have to deal with stuff over Flash in N6.  It appears that Safari has a similar problem (the old iMac I eBayed for testing with finally arrived - so nice, even for an oooolllddd machine), with both Flash and Quicktime, so I&#039;ll definitely be extending things - unless one of the other developers comes up with something simpler.

For that project, I was thinking I was going to have to go back to my using a whole stylesheet thing, to give more flexibility on what to do in those cases, but I just thought of a better technique, that gives a nice mechanism for dealing with no plug-in substitution, at the same time.  I&#039;ll just wrap the Flash/whatever else in a div that has a background of the image substituiton that I was going to use directly on the object.  Then when it goes hidden, walla, substitute image while menuing, instead of just losing the whole Flash, in a flash.


It&#039;s annoying how addRule doesn&#039;t return you a usable index or reference isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the credit, Aleck. Now I really need to get off my ass and finish my (standard-compliant) redesign. ;)</p>
<p>Looks good — I like clean code too :). I like the idea of using underscores to distinguish “private” function — I’ll be borrowing that one.  I’ve got a project that I need to make a first delivery on this week-end that is basically using pure css menus with just the WCH (and the whatever:hover) grafted on, so I’ll be doing some testing for you, also. ;)</p>
<p>Later, I’ll be looking at adding this onto an existing menu on the project that got me started tweaking your code — the one where I have to deal with stuff over Flash in N6.  It appears that Safari has a similar problem (the old iMac I eBayed for testing with finally arrived — so nice, even for an oooolllddd machine), with both Flash and Quicktime, so I’ll definitely be extending things — unless one of the other developers comes up with something simpler.</p>
<p>For that project, I was thinking I was going to have to go back to my using a whole stylesheet thing, to give more flexibility on what to do in those cases, but I just thought of a better technique, that gives a nice mechanism for dealing with no plug-in substitution, at the same time.  I’ll just wrap the Flash/whatever else in a div that has a background of the image substituiton that I was going to use directly on the object.  Then when it goes hidden, walla, substitute image while menuing, instead of just losing the whole Flash, in a flash.</p>
<p>It’s annoying how addRule doesn’t return you a usable index or reference isn’t it?</p>
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		<title>By: aleck</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; It&#039;s annoying how addRule doesn&#039;t return you a usable 
&gt; index or reference isn&#039;t it?

Very annoying. MSDN says it&#039;s a reserved value. I wonder for what...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; It’s annoying how addRule doesn’t return you a usable<br />
&gt; index or reference isn’t it?</p>
<p>Very annoying. MSDN says it’s a reserved value. I wonder for what…</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and it turns out you can, essentially, get private/public in javascript : &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crockford.com/javascript/private.html&quot;&gt;Private Members in Javascript&lt;/a&gt;

With that in mind, a retooling using his suggestions for effecting private/public (could still had your underscores).  At least one less comparison each time, around, and some other tweaks.  It  adds oSelector, which lets you easily set the selector for oRule (.WCHHider vs. select thing vs. some other combo).

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH3_tim.js&quot;&gt;WCH3_tim.js&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and it turns out you can, essentially, get private/public in javascript : <a href="http://www.crockford.com/javascript/private.html">Private Members in Javascript</a></p>
<p>With that in mind, a retooling using his suggestions for effecting private/public (could still had your underscores).  At least one less comparison each time, around, and some other tweaks.  It  adds oSelector, which lets you easily set the selector for oRule (.WCHHider vs. select thing vs. some other combo).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH3_tim.js">WCH3_tim.js</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aleksandar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleksandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, thanks for the link, it sure reveals stuff about Javascript I was not aware of. I will certainly recode all my scripts in this manner and possibly ste...err, borrow some of your tweaks :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, thanks for the link, it sure reveals stuff about Javascript I was not aware of. I will certainly recode all my scripts in this manner and possibly ste…err, borrow some of your tweaks :).</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, I&#039;m using some ToolTips code (an example and source code can be found here: http://www.griffininteractive.net/archives/web%20design/000124.html ) and I can&#039;t seem to figure out how to get it to play nice with the WCH.Apply on drop-down boxes - the tool tips remain behind the drop-downs, regardless of what I do.

It seems somehow problematic that the layer to be displayed lives inside an anchor tag, but I haven&#039;t been able to get much further than that...

Ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, I’m using some ToolTips code (an example and source code can be found here: <a href="http://www.griffininteractive.net/archives/web%20design/000124.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.griffininteractive.net/archives/web%20design/000124.html</a> ) and I can’t seem to figure out how to get it to play nice with the WCH.Apply on drop-down boxes — the tool tips remain behind the drop-downs, regardless of what I do.</p>
<p>It seems somehow problematic that the layer to be displayed lives inside an anchor tag, but I haven’t been able to get much further than that…</p>
<p>Ideas?</p>
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