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	<title>Comments on: WCH 2.5 — IE 5.0 support</title>
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		<title>By: Rudi van Es</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8661</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi van Es</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have applied WCH to show a popup-div. However when the popup-div covers a selextbox element in a underlying-div with overflow:auto or overflow:scroll a problem occurs.
Initialy the popup-div covers the selectbox perfectly.
However when I scroll the underlying-div or use my mouse wheel the selectbox is displayed over the popup-div again.

Does anyone have a answer to this problem?
Is it possible to catch scrolling events and how?

Thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have applied WCH to show a popup-div. However when the popup-div covers a selextbox element in a underlying-div with overflow:auto or overflow:scroll a problem occurs.<br />
Initialy the popup-div covers the selectbox perfectly.<br />
However when I scroll the underlying-div or use my mouse wheel the selectbox is displayed over the popup-div again.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a answer to this problem?<br />
Is it possible to catch scrolling events and how?</p>
<p>Thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8293</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The html example isn&#039;t shown correctly, so here i sent it once more (i replaced the start and end tags):

%%!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC &quot;-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN&quot;%%
%%html%%
%%head%%%%head%%
%%body%%
%%div id=&quot;title&quot; style=&quot;position:absolute; top:25px; height:30px; width:100%;padding-left:15px; background-color:#E4E4E4; z-index:100&quot;%%
	Do not show!
%%div%%
%%iframe id=&quot;DivShim&quot;
  scrolling=&quot;no&quot;
  frameborder=&quot;0&quot;
  style=&quot;position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; display:none;&quot;%%
%%iframe%%

%%div id=&quot;region-contentBrowse&quot;%%
	%%table id=&quot;filterTable&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;%%
		%%tr%%%%td%%&#160;%%td%%%%tr%%
		%%tr%%%%td%%&#160;%%td%%%%tr%%
		%%tr%%%%td%%&#160;%%td%%%%tr%%
		%%tr%%%%td%%&#160;%%td%%%%tr%%
		%%tr%%
			%%td%%
			%%div id=&quot;selectbox&quot;%%
				%%select name=&quot;SEL_IND&quot; size=&quot;1&quot;%%
					%%option value=&quot;AC&quot;%%Actief%%option%%
					%%option value=&quot;FU&quot;%%Toekomstig%%option%%
					%%option value=&quot;HI&quot;%%Historie%%option%%
					%%option value=&quot;AL&quot;%%Alles%%option%%
				%%select%%
 			%%td%%
 			%%div%%
		%%tr%%
	%%table%%
%%div%%
%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%
%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%
%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%%%br/%%
%%script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;%%

floatingControlTop(document.getElementById(&quot;title&quot;),59);

function floatingControlTop(div, iOffset){
	if (document.recalc &amp;&amp; document.body.attachEvent){

		div.style.setExpression(&quot;top&quot;, &quot;document.body.scrollTop + &quot; + iOffset);
		document.body.onscroll=function()
		{
			document.recalc(true);
			DivSetVisible();
			//WCH.Apply(&#039;title&#039;,&#039;&#039;, true);
			document.recalc(true);
		};
	}
}
  function DivSetVisible()
  {
	var DivRef = document.getElementById(&#039;title&#039;);
	var IfrRef = document.getElementById(&#039;DivShim&#039;);
	
	var selectRef = document.getElementById(&#039;selectbox&#039;);
	
    DivRef.style.display = &quot;block&quot;;
    IfrRef.style.width = DivRef.offsetWidth;
    IfrRef.style.height = DivRef.offsetHeight;
	    
    IfrRef.style.top = DivRef.style.top;
    IfrRef.style.left = DivRef.style.left;
    IfrRef.style.zIndex = DivRef.style.zIndex - 1;
    IfrRef.style.display = &quot;block&quot;;
 }

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%%body%%
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The html example isn’t shown correctly, so here i sent it once more (i replaced the start and end tags):</p>
<p>%%!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN”%%<br />
%%html%%<br />
%%head%%%%head%%<br />
%%body%%<br />
%%div id=“title” style=“position:absolute; top:25px; height:30px; width:100%;padding-left:15px; background-color:#E4E4E4; z-index:100″%%<br />
	Do not show!<br />
%%div%%<br />
%%iframe id=“DivShim“<br />
  scrolling=“no“<br />
  frameborder=“0”<br />
  style=“position:absolute; top:0px; left:0px; display:none;”%%<br />
%%iframe%%</p>
<p>%%div id=“region-contentBrowse”%%<br />
	%%table id=“filterTable” border=“0”%%<br />
		%%tr%%%%td%% %%td%%%%tr%%<br />
		%%tr%%%%td%% %%td%%%%tr%%<br />
		%%tr%%%%td%% %%td%%%%tr%%<br />
		%%tr%%%%td%% %%td%%%%tr%%<br />
		%%tr%%<br />
			%%td%%<br />
			%%div id=“selectbox”%%<br />
				%%select name=“SEL_IND” size=“1”%%<br />
					%%option value=“AC”%%Actief%%option%%<br />
					%%option value=“FU”%%Toekomstig%%option%%<br />
					%%option value=“HI”%%Historie%%option%%<br />
					%%option value=“AL”%%Alles%%option%%<br />
				%%select%%<br />
 			%%td%%<br />
 			%%div%%<br />
		%%tr%%<br />
	%%table%%<br />
%%div%%<br />
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<p>floatingControlTop(document.getElementById(“title”),59);</p>
<p>function floatingControlTop(div, iOffset){<br />
	if (document.recalc &amp;&amp; document.body.attachEvent){</p>
<p>		div.style.setExpression(“top”, “document.body.scrollTop + ” + iOffset);<br />
		document.body.onscroll=function()<br />
		{<br />
			document.recalc(true);<br />
			DivSetVisible();<br />
			//WCH.Apply(‘title’,”, true);<br />
			document.recalc(true);<br />
		};<br />
	}<br />
}<br />
  function DivSetVisible()<br />
  {<br />
	var DivRef = document.getElementById(‘title’);<br />
	var IfrRef = document.getElementById(‘DivShim’);</p>
<p>	var selectRef = document.getElementById(‘selectbox’);</p>
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    IfrRef.style.width = DivRef.offsetWidth;<br />
    IfrRef.style.height = DivRef.offsetHeight;</p>
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    IfrRef.style.left = DivRef.style.left;<br />
    IfrRef.style.zIndex = DivRef.style.zIndex — 1;<br />
    IfrRef.style.display = “block”;<br />
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8292</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WCHider script was very helpful to me but anyhow i still have a problem showing a moving menu at the top of the page. The window controls are hidden very well by the moving menu but the problem is that when they are scrolled back to the bottom of the page, they&#039;re not shown correctly. This problem only occurs when using the mouse wheel, not when i scroll with the left mouse button.

I&#039;ve added a html example here (sorry for the &#039;awfull&#039; code):






	Do not show!





	
		&#160;
		&#160;
		&#160;
		&#160;
		
			
			
				
					Actief
					Toekomstig
					Historie
					Alles
				
 			
 			
		
	






floatingControlTop(document.getElementById(&quot;title&quot;),59);

function floatingControlTop(div, iOffset){
	if (document.recalc &amp;&amp; document.body.attachEvent){

		div.style.setExpression(&quot;top&quot;, &quot;document.body.scrollTop + &quot; + iOffset);
		document.body.onscroll=function()
		{
			document.recalc(true);
			DivSetVisible();
			//WCH.Apply(&#039;title&#039;,&#039;&#039;, true);
			document.recalc(true);
		};
	}
}
  function DivSetVisible()
  {
	var DivRef = document.getElementById(&#039;title&#039;);
	var IfrRef = document.getElementById(&#039;DivShim&#039;);
	
	var selectRef = document.getElementById(&#039;selectbox&#039;);
	
    DivRef.style.display = &quot;block&quot;;
    IfrRef.style.width = DivRef.offsetWidth;
    IfrRef.style.height = DivRef.offsetHeight;
	    
    IfrRef.style.top = DivRef.style.top;
    IfrRef.style.left = DivRef.style.left;
    IfrRef.style.zIndex = DivRef.style.zIndex - 1;
    IfrRef.style.display = &quot;block&quot;;
 }





Can someone help me please? I would really appreciate your help! Thanks!

Greetz,
Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WCHider script was very helpful to me but anyhow i still have a problem showing a moving menu at the top of the page. The window controls are hidden very well by the moving menu but the problem is that when they are scrolled back to the bottom of the page, they’re not shown correctly. This problem only occurs when using the mouse wheel, not when i scroll with the left mouse button.</p>
<p>I’ve added a html example here (sorry for the ‘awfull’ code):</p>
<p>	Do not show!</p>
<p>		 <br />
		 <br />
		 <br />
		 </p>
<p>					Actief<br />
					Toekomstig<br />
					Historie<br />
					Alles</p>
<p>floatingControlTop(document.getElementById(“title”),59);</p>
<p>function floatingControlTop(div, iOffset){<br />
	if (document.recalc &amp;&amp; document.body.attachEvent){</p>
<p>		div.style.setExpression(“top”, “document.body.scrollTop + ” + iOffset);<br />
		document.body.onscroll=function()<br />
		{<br />
			document.recalc(true);<br />
			DivSetVisible();<br />
			//WCH.Apply(‘title’,”, true);<br />
			document.recalc(true);<br />
		};<br />
	}<br />
}<br />
  function DivSetVisible()<br />
  {<br />
	var DivRef = document.getElementById(‘title’);<br />
	var IfrRef = document.getElementById(‘DivShim’);</p>
<p>	var selectRef = document.getElementById(‘selectbox’);</p>
<p>    DivRef.style.display = “block”;<br />
    IfrRef.style.width = DivRef.offsetWidth;<br />
    IfrRef.style.height = DivRef.offsetHeight;</p>
<p>    IfrRef.style.top = DivRef.style.top;<br />
    IfrRef.style.left = DivRef.style.left;<br />
    IfrRef.style.zIndex = DivRef.style.zIndex — 1;<br />
    IfrRef.style.display = “block”;<br />
 }</p>
<p>Can someone help me please? I would really appreciate your help! Thanks!</p>
<p>Greetz,<br />
Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8283</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

For our website we have a similar problem and the examples pushed me in the right direction but the problem still isn&#039;t solved completely.

Our website uses a moving DIV menu so that this menu is always at the top of the page and the content can be scrolled underneath this menu. Directly under this menu we have a moving TITLE DIV (in the body of the html page). This DIV is used because the text in it changes with every page of the website. The content of our website contains dropdownlists and these windowed controls will appear through the moving DIV&#039;s normally, but as i&#039;ve learned here a moving IFRAME, directly underneath the TITLE (and menu ) DIV can be used to hide these windowed controls.

This all seemed to work well and it does when the scrollbar is scrolled with the left mouse button. IT DOESN&#039;T WORK HOWEVER WHEN THE SCROLLBAR IS SCROLLED WITH THE MOUSE WHEEL!!! The window controls are NOT shown underneath the TITLE (and menu) DIV&#039;s but when they are scrolled from the top to the bottom and back again underneath the TITLE div, the window control ( dropdown list) isn&#039;t refreshed properly. The dropdown list sometimes isn&#039;t shown at all and at other times it contains colors from the menu and/or TITLE DIV. How is this possible?

I tested it many times and the recalc(true) function is called thrice when the mouse wheel is scrolled minimally. The IFRAME is refreshed thrice underneath the TITLE DIV, but anyhow i get these strange results.

Can someone help me please?

Greetings,
Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>For our website we have a similar problem and the examples pushed me in the right direction but the problem still isn’t solved completely.</p>
<p>Our website uses a moving DIV menu so that this menu is always at the top of the page and the content can be scrolled underneath this menu. Directly under this menu we have a moving TITLE DIV (in the body of the html page). This DIV is used because the text in it changes with every page of the website. The content of our website contains dropdownlists and these windowed controls will appear through the moving DIV’s normally, but as i’ve learned here a moving IFRAME, directly underneath the TITLE (and menu ) DIV can be used to hide these windowed controls.</p>
<p>This all seemed to work well and it does when the scrollbar is scrolled with the left mouse button. IT DOESN’T WORK HOWEVER WHEN THE SCROLLBAR IS SCROLLED WITH THE MOUSE WHEEL!!! The window controls are NOT shown underneath the TITLE (and menu) DIV’s but when they are scrolled from the top to the bottom and back again underneath the TITLE div, the window control ( dropdown list) isn’t refreshed properly. The dropdown list sometimes isn’t shown at all and at other times it contains colors from the menu and/or TITLE DIV. How is this possible?</p>
<p>I tested it many times and the recalc(true) function is called thrice when the mouse wheel is scrolled minimally. The IFRAME is refreshed thrice underneath the TITLE DIV, but anyhow i get these strange results.</p>
<p>Can someone help me please?</p>
<p>Greetings,<br />
Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.aplus.co.yu/?p=54#comment-169</guid>
		<description>Awesome, thanks for putting that in, Alek.  I almost hate to do this, after you put in the effort, but I wonder what you think of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infosauce.org/standards/IE5hiding1.html&quot;&gt;this alternative&lt;/a&gt;.  Obviously it is just the base code for IE5.0, since you already have your sniffing code.  No array of reference or dom crawl and it&#039;s pretty clean code, I think.  I&#039;m going to play around with it a bit more, and see if I can come up with something even cleaner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, thanks for putting that in, Alek.  I almost hate to do this, after you put in the effort, but I wonder what you think of <a href="http://www.infosauce.org/standards/IE5hiding1.html">this alternative</a>.  Obviously it is just the base code for IE5.0, since you already have your sniffing code.  No array of reference or dom crawl and it’s pretty clean code, I think.  I’m going to play around with it a bit more, and see if I can come up with something even cleaner</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.aplus.co.yu/?p=54#comment-170</guid>
		<description>I think this might be as simple clean as I can imagine.  Obviously go with whichever method you think best, but this one only requires one line of code to hide or show, and allows the user to implement whatever .css they want for the hiding/showing (selector=className, tagName &#124; style = visibility, display, etc), because it just enables and disables a (alternate, so it doesn&#039;t show up in non IE browsers) stylesheet.  

If it doesn&#039;t find the stylesheet, nothing happens, so you can just ignore it, and let people choose to have the stylesheet, without you needing to do anything special to maintain two separate bodies of code.

Oh, and this one will work in other browsers, if they add a title attribute to the stylesheet, which is nice for those of us who are going to have to hack on another test-case for N6/Flash6- (and it since it just uses a stylesheet we can do whatever sort of hiding object and replacing them with images we needed to).


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infosauce.org/standards/IE5hiding2.html&quot;&gt;http://www.infosauce.org/standards/IE5hiding2.html&lt;/a&gt;

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this might be as simple clean as I can imagine.  Obviously go with whichever method you think best, but this one only requires one line of code to hide or show, and allows the user to implement whatever .css they want for the hiding/showing (selector=className, tagName | style = visibility, display, etc), because it just enables and disables a (alternate, so it doesn’t show up in non IE browsers) stylesheet.  </p>
<p>If it doesn’t find the stylesheet, nothing happens, so you can just ignore it, and let people choose to have the stylesheet, without you needing to do anything special to maintain two separate bodies of code.</p>
<p>Oh, and this one will work in other browsers, if they add a title attribute to the stylesheet, which is nice for those of us who are going to have to hack on another test-case for N6/Flash6– (and it since it just uses a stylesheet we can do whatever sort of hiding object and replacing them with images we needed to).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infosauce.org/standards/IE5hiding2.html">http://www.infosauce.org/standards/IE5hiding2.html</a></p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.aplus.co.yu/?p=54#comment-171</guid>
		<description>Have you ever thought of cleaning it up into a class/object, thus being able to avoid running the browser tests each time and simplifying potential additions to* or customizations of** the code (this, with my last suggested IE5 method, also cuts almost another 1.5k off)?  For example, the following (this isn&#039;t tested, it is just an example, but if you&#039;re interested, I can clean it up a bit more and test it):

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim.js&quot;&gt;http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim.js&lt;/a&gt;

Tim

*such as having a showAll method, that hides all hiders, which could now be tracked by pushing them into an array, which could be a property of the class

**now the path to the hiding .css could be set in the calling page, by setting that property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever thought of cleaning it up into a class/object, thus being able to avoid running the browser tests each time and simplifying potential additions to* or customizations of** the code (this, with my last suggested IE5 method, also cuts almost another 1.5k off)?  For example, the following (this isn’t tested, it is just an example, but if you’re interested, I can clean it up a bit more and test it):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim.js">http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim.js</a></p>
<p>Tim</p>
<p>*such as having a showAll method, that hides all hiders, which could now be tracked by pushing them into an array, which could be a property of the class</p>
<p>**now the path to the hiding .css could be set in the calling page, by setting that property.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.aplus.co.yu/?p=54#comment-172</guid>
		<description>Then again, since there would only be one instance at a time, maybe a more library type coding style, with Class methods, would be more appropriate:

http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim2.js</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, since there would only be one instance at a time, maybe a more library type coding style, with Class methods, would be more appropriate:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim2.js" rel="nofollow">http://www.infosauce.org/standards/WCH_tim2.js</a></p>
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		<title>By: aleck</title>
		<link>http://aplus.rs/wchdev/wch-25-ie-50-support/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>aleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.aplus.co.yu/?p=54#comment-173</guid>
		<description>Tim, many thanks for the time and effort. I checked your examples and they pushed me in the right direction. You are using additional style sheet file which is enabled and disabled as needed.
This is good, as the script is smaller. However, giving away one HTTP request on file with one class is rather an overkill.

I took your idea and extended it to dynamically add the .WCHhider rule to existing style sheets. I&#039;m preparing the write-up...
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, many thanks for the time and effort. I checked your examples and they pushed me in the right direction. You are using additional style sheet file which is enabled and disabled as needed.<br />
This is good, as the script is smaller. However, giving away one HTTP request on file with one class is rather an overkill.</p>
<p>I took your idea and extended it to dynamically add the .WCHhider rule to existing style sheets. I’m preparing the write-up…</p>
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