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Voices from the crowd, 6 so far

Ya, made me wish I was in the UK. Hmm, maybe if it’s at the same time next year I’ll just stretch out my Eurpore trip a little to leave me over there for that.… Not sure if they need yet another standards wanker of no great reknown (me not you, of course), but it’d be fun.

I assume you caught the comments (and the build up prior to this from Peter Paul Koch) about fitting Javascript better into the standards based push? Of course, I’ve never quite agreed with his views on the presentation scripting versus behavioral css, but maybe if they keep pushing good clean DOM scritping as a proper behavior layer, I’ll fall more in line. And with the progress on getting a good cross browser OnDOMloaded solution, there are some possibilities for the non .htc direction you’ve been reconsidering for ADxMenu anyways, eh? I can’t wait to see what Dean Edwards writes up for the onDOMloaded stuff.

I’d been considering if I could hack Mac IE support back in to the latest ADxMenu, but once I saw you were having problems that route, based on permformance, I thought about waiting a bit more. Now I’m curious to see what more they have to say about this, but cause it bodes well for seemelessly attaching DOM scripts, which is what I guess you’ve got, now, eh. ;)

On that note, Edwards did clarify in the comments to that post that Ajax is a clearer term for the actual data exchange part* and DOM scripting should refer to the actual DOM scripting, which probably happens as a result of Ajax calls.

* on barely related topic I’m actually becoming more and more of a huge fan of JSON, at least for the encoding method, but that can work somewhat hand in hand with the Asychronous Javascript, and even the XML, somewhat. I guess just another case of the Ajax term swallowing everything else under it’s umbrella.

by Tim Connor
2 hours, 22 minutes after the post

Hey Tim, long time no read. :)

If this initiative brings more awareness of how Javascript should be used, I’m all for it. PPK and me (and you) will probably always disagree on some views, but we probably agree in most, being standard wankers ;)

On a side note, I started the work on the new ADxMenu but it goes slow — very little time to think and properly test. The way I intend to show/hide menus, it should work with IE/Mac too.
The thing that irks me is that without .htc it’s harder to replicate the styles. I need more work to spend on it. I will eventually used it on 5 live sites, including the one where I had perfomance problems, so it must behave and be easy to maintain and skin.
Lots of options in the play, little time to consider each one.

And I don’t think this @media bunch knows me any more they know you. :)

by Aleksandar
2 hours, 49 minutes after the post

Ya, life has been busy, so no comments from me lately. You’ve been writing all about GP and stuff, anyways, which I don;t have much to say about. ;)

Actually, I swear I’ve seen references to your menu popping up here or there, so you might manage to slowly slide out of total obscurity. Time-wise we’ve (my company) been pretty slammed, too, but if there is anything in particular you’d like help on, even if just testing, let me know and I’ll see if we can find any time to fit in during down-time. Hell, I can justify it by syaing it solves the IE Mac problem.

by Tim Connor
3 hours after the post

Heh. I can’t help myself, I love F1 and MotoGP.

Thanks for the offer, I first have to get into to point of having something to test. Singapore sightseeing is proving way more interesting than coding drop-down menus. :) Maybe if temepratures return to non-bearable, than I’ll be cornered into my room.

The only time I actually did something with ADxMenu is when client website was going live and I noticed the onload lag.

by Aleksandar
9 hours, 14 minutes after the post

On topic, have you seen this, yet: http://www.ripcord.co.nz/behaviour/ ? An interesting take at the whole unobtrusive application of .js . Wehn I have a good excuse I’ll have someone try it out and see how well it works.

Tim

by Tim Connor
1 week, 3 days after the post

Now I have. :)
One more to add into the queue for future investigation.

by Aleksandar
1 week, 5 days after the post