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More eBay frauds

There is no end to ways someone can (try to) cheat a person.

After three failed auctions for my old PC laptop, all ending with frauds, I posted another one, the last one I could while in UK. This time, I set the starting price to £699, and 3 days auction time (it can’t be less than that*). In the end, there was an offer from a legitimate looking account that was a high bidder for some time, only to be overtaken by a brand new account in the final minutes.

After finishing with £920 wining bid, I wrote a message to him, to see about payment and shipment. However, in less than an hour since the bid end, this account became the unregistered user on eBay. :( eBay help advises to file a dispute, which I will automatically win since the other party is no longer a user. This immediately gave me back my posting fees and everything was nullified. I then offered a second chance to the 2nd high bidder, but after a day he didn’t even respond to numerous messages and everything went bust again.

Outside eBay channels, things were more interesting.

While I was doing that, the winning bidder was also hard at work. He first sent me a message from a yahoo.com account saying that he is glad he won the auction and that I should send it to provided address in Nigeria. He will pay me £100 for the postage. Oh, how nice…

Less than an hour later, I received this email:

Forged eBay message. Check he email header from where it is sent

On first glance looks rather legitimate, if only it wasn’t for the real email address ending in europe.com. It’s obvious that he tried to replicate the look and feel of the actual eBay messages, including the FromName field in the header. If only that From field was not so revealing. But he didn’t stop there.

After some minutes, another messages arrives, this time “from” PayPal:

Forged PayPal message. Check he email header from where it is sent

You must hand it to the guy – he really tried. Careful inspection reveals details that show this is not from PayPal (apart from email address of course) but the overall feel is there.
Since I ignored him, after two days he sent me another message, warning me that I have been reported to PayPal and that my account will be suspended until I send the item to him. A tireless bastard.

I have no idea can anyone be fooled by this. I guess yes, although it is really hard for me to believe that someone would send the item out without actually checking PayPal account balance, which will show no such transaction ever took place.

Check, check and recheck, with all eyes open.

* – eBay should really allow for shorter periods. My experience, both as a seller and buyer, tells me that everyone wait until few hours before the auction end and real fun begins 10mins before the end. In all my selling auctions, there was barely a bid or two in first 2 days.

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  1. Andy says:

    Same “exact” thing happened to me two days ago. Second shot at selling my laptop. All is good until the final minute. Boom! The fake buyer converges and outbids the legit bidders by $100 USD.

    The rest of the story went the same way yours did. So, what will you do? I would consider using craigslist or something, but that really limits my pool of buyers to my small city of Pittsburgh. Have you found anything else out there?

    Life sucks and then you Ebay.

  2. Aleksandar says:

    At least you have options. Since I’m selling this from Serbia, I can either try to sell it here (where there is no much market for high-end laptops) or continue trying over eBay.

    What really irks me is that I could sell this while I was in UK and postage is much less there than sending from Serbia. And all these cheaters ruined every single attempt. Scumbags.

  3. Andy says:

    I just re-listed my item for the 3rd time. This time, though, I went into the advanced selling options and found a useful section. I chose to disallow any bidders who:

    - has a negative seller rating
    – has no paypal account
    – registered with a non-US address
    – checked “I am a Nigerian scammer” when joining Ebay (ok, kidding)

    I’m really hoping things work out this time around. You’d think in 2007, things like this would be clobbered by clever code. No so, apparently.

    One last thing: my brother alerted me to the “second chance” option after the auction ends. This gives the person behind the winning bidder (ie, scammer) a chance to win the item. Of course, they, too, could be a scammer. Maybe that will help.

    This whole process has made me increasingly paranoid. Good luck with your ebay endeavors. Nice z-index article, by the way. I found it very helpful.

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